FatFreek 2005
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Illegal immigrants in the organization?
by silent ini had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
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FatFreek 2005
Pistoff: Some feel, and I am one, that it is a churches job to shepherd and feed the flock, no matter if they are 'illegal' or not. It's a place of worship, not an enforcement zone!
Really? The problem with WT is that it has indeed set itself up as an enforcement zone -- kangaroo trials disguised as judicial comittee meetings to chastise its membership for smoking, fornication, breaking Caesar's laws (um ... except for illegal immigration), etc., etc.
The enforcement zone of the local congregation is mirrored throughout the world in congregations which probably number close to 40,000 -- that zone is alive and well.
With due respect, the Watchtower double-standard is a mirror of Paul's double standard. Recall he is the very one who wrote Romans 13 and the same one who gave counsel to that runaway slave.
Repeating that earlier WT quote: " Take note that while Onesimus was in Rome the apostle Paul did not hand him over to the Roman authorities for punishment as a fugitive slave and possibly a thief. We know from his writings that Paul believed that a Christian should obey the law of the land, but plainly he did not consider it the congregation’s duty to serve as an arm of the government in policing individuals’ lives. "
Is it possible the early Christian Congregation did not have an enforcement zone like the JWs do?
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Illegal immigrants in the organization?
by silent ini had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
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FatFreek 2005
"If this was tolerated, then wouldn't bank robbery, theft, forgery, and a whole entire list of other illegal behaviour be "okay" and "tolerated" as well?"
Very good point. Local cong elders are being put in the position of choosing, like at a buffet cafeteria, which of Caesars laws are valid enough to take some form of legal action. One of the WT judicial keys seems to be if a person is a practitioner of a certain behavior. We can therefore conclude:
1. If the perpetrator admits to being an illegal allien (remember: being one is not a one-and-done act -- it means one is practicing this behavior), then positions of congregation responsibility are not allowed. I know that in one congregation in Tennessee, elders will have nothing to do with turning that person in to the authorities. "We are not the police", they say.
2. If the perp admits to practicing other illegal behavior (see above) then disfellowshipping and other punitive measures are in order.
I see it as self serving for the WTS -- they want/need membership and turning these folks in would be contrary to their membership goals.
Len
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JW Flash Mob
by Listener ina flash mob is defined as a large public gathering at which people perform an unusual or seemingly random act and then disperse.. jws are now in on the act and were doing this in bath on unsuspecting convention delegates during their tours after the convention.
they did this on at least three seperate occassions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmrqr-k4hq.
here's another one, not so public though.
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corny: what is the opposite, reverse,- of GROW J?
by prologos inopposite of grow would be decline right?
it is easier: read gro.w j backward:.
symptomatic with decline in truth, spirituality.. .
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Clever
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Cartoon -- conditions of membership
by FatFreek 2005 inyes, it's a cartoon, but it's not actually funny.. .
the text not suit you?
here's a blank drawing you can use to brew your own.. .
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FatFreek 2005
Yes, it's a cartoon, but it's not actually funny.
The text not suit you? Here's a blank drawing you can use to brew your own.
This may be an ideal template to create a statement against baptism of youngsters. Yes, while the Society slams infant baptism, they endorse baptisms of six-year-olds. (tip: to copy the image, right click and follow the menu to copy it. Then paste it to your image or photo editor. My favorite is Paint Shop Pro)
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Letter to BOE - "Cautions Regarding Shepherding of Sisters"?
by berrygerry inone gets so used to jw speak.. re-read that question as an outsider.. would the shepherding of sisters be similar to the herding of cats?.
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JW.ORG 2014 baggage
by FatFreek 2005 in.
to copy image for your email campaign, right click over image and follow menu.. len miller.
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FatFreek 2005
To copy image for your email campaign, right click over image and follow menu.
Len Miller
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Higher Education... Some ideas for those that think it is too late
by adjusted knowledge inso many witnesses lost the opportunity to pursue higher education in their youths.
perhaps it took decades for many here to leave and now feel it is too late.
degree you will also earn multiple certifications from other agencies:.
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FatFreek 2005
Anchors aweigh, say Jehovah's Witnesses and bye-bye to advanced education. (very good topic, AK)
Len Miller
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FatFreek 2005
Hey, Magnum. Good eagle eyes to spot that. A huge difference between MAY and WILL.
